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Dave Bautista Is Losing Weight After Being an ‘Uncomfortable’ 315 Pounds for a Movie Role

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u/charliehustle757 6d ago

He’s also off roids im sure

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u/cocoagiant 6d ago

My understanding is he can't ever be off the roids. Long term usage means his body just doesn't produce enough of it anymore. He probably went down to a maintenance level though.

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u/blacklite911 6d ago

Well, now they have testosterone replacement therapy. A lot of retired body builders get on it to maintain a normal-ish test level.

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u/mr_potatoface 6d ago edited 6d ago

Any non-natty bodybuilder or powerlifter is always on TRT as a baseline level. Then for competition/show prep time they start blasting away.

It also helps for airlines and travel to have TRT prescribed because then you can travel with controlled substances and not have issues. You may have a legal script for 200mg/test per week, but you're actually blasting 1g/day. The feds don't care typically care how much you're dosing when you travel or get caught, but they do care if you legally have a prescription for the medicine. So you can buy 50g of test from your source, then when you travel just make sure you have a enough gear but not an amount that exceeds your prescribed max.

Ex: You are legally prescribed a 2 5g vials for 1ml/500mg test cyp. Don't get caught with 2 10g vials even if it's the same thing. Don't get caught with 2 5g vials of 1ml/500 test eth, or a different concentration of test cyp. You just refill the old prescribed vials as needed when your dosage exceeds what is prescribed, or mix compounds in the prescribed vial if you are taking harder stuff you can't get scripts for. Some of these boys have no problem shooting up kilos of random Chinese gutter oil gear, but then when it comes to vaccinations they say it's unsafe to put harmful chemicals in their body that may come from anywhere.

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u/FlyNeither 6d ago

Nobody's pinning 1g of test a day, wtf are you talking about? Gear these days comes from reputable labs that post the independent labwork on their product, the independent labs also publish their results.

You sound like someone that read a misc post from 2002.

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u/No-Question-9032 6d ago

They're a redditor so it probably is from an outdated post with no real world knowledge or experience

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u/Comfortable_Line_206 5d ago

I've seen 1g on top of Tren, Winny, and even insulin at the highest levels.

Certainly unsafe and reckless at that point, but it's not unheard of.

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u/FlyNeither 5d ago

Not daily

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u/Comfortable_Line_206 5d ago

Oh man I'm so used to assuming doses are per week I didn't even notice. Yeah that's insanely wrong.

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u/massofmolecules 5d ago

That huge Belarusian guy just died and he was only 36 years old, so yeah very unhealthy.

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u/calicocidd 5d ago

They're just pulling numbers out of their ass, I think. I'm running over a gram of gear a week right now, between Test, EQ, and Anavar; but no ones pushing 500mg/ml test; I've done 450mg/ml and the PIP sucked donkey dick. It's easier to just pin a higher volume at a lower concentration; but 2ml at 500mg... hard pass. Even Chase Irons who's running 4g of test a week right now, is keeping the concentration at 400mg/ml and just pinning 10ml a week.

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u/mr_potatoface 5d ago edited 5d ago

Dude I just pulled numbers out of my ass as an example because it's a round number. I probably should've said per week but I wanted to exaggerate that they don't care because they don't actually know how much you are using when going through customs or whatever you're passing through.

But if you want to argue about how many days in a week there are, I'm here for it too. Sunday thru Sunday = 7 days.

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u/DependentOnIt 5d ago

Trt is considered roids

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u/blacklite911 5d ago

Well testosterone is a steroid. But in the lay man PED context, people draw a difference between illicit steroids and prescribed steroids.

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u/Super_Sandro23 5d ago

No. Taking enough to be at a normal level between 300-1000 ng/dL is TRT. Taking doses to be way more than that is considered steroids.

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u/lolas_coffee 6d ago

Pretty accurate. There are protocols for getting off steroids slowly and addressing the side effects (such as low testosterone).

He most likely is on a TRT that is planned to get him to normal levels for his age.

FWIW many people experience big changes in their appearance when they quit roids. More than just the bulk. I think that is some of what you are seeing here.

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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 6d ago

It isn't usually that drastic, while steroids do improve training perfomance and the shape, it's not magical as you need to train, even if you stop you keep a lot of what you gained, but that 10~15% you lose is enough for some people to keep taking the stuff like crazy as they are addicted to the shape.

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u/Comfortable_Line_206 5d ago

Roid user here. It's magic.

Don't let people on it convince you otherwise.

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u/MathematicianFar6725 5d ago

If it's not magic it's pretty damn close to it. You'll put on muscle even if you lay on the couch the entire cycle

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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 5d ago

I meant to say more of the case that the charrot doesn't turn into pupkim so suddenly, if one trains hard they will keep most of it, the issue is that most of it isn't enough for those addicted to the shape (and juice) or on the Mr. Olympia route.

PEDs aren't called magic pills for no reason, they can speed up and improve gains like crazy (and kill you in the process).

Dropping PEDs isn't the main reason Bautista dropped his weight, that was the point i was trying to make. I have no idea what type of cycles he went through during his wrestling career.

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u/ChrisPnCrunchy 6d ago

You’re thinking of testosterone & TRT (testosterone replacement therapy).

Steroids isn’t the same as TRT.

I’d bet a $1,000,000 he’s been on TRT, is still on TRT, & will be forever, because it (& HRT [for women]) is the closest thing to the fountain of youth.

TRT is why a 60 year old like Brad Pit can still look like this

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u/cocoagiant 6d ago

testosterone & TRT (testosterone replacement therapy).

Steroids isn’t the same as TRT.

If the medication he is getting is testosterone, he is on steroids. Testosterone is a steroid.

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u/First-Football7924 6d ago

Still taxing on the brain...and look at what 60 year old Brad Pitt did. No bueno. TRT may be good for muscle growth and other systems, but the organs? Probably not so kind. What's even scarier is that you have young people out of shape, depressed, going to the doctor with low T levels (caused by what? peripheral issues that can be changed? Very likely) and getting on it. So, so many people. Some celebrities even go HGH in some cases, purely for "health" reasons. Doesn't work. Never will. It's like smoking. There are several studies showing smoking induces a significant change and expression of Klotho (anti-aging) and it's very potent, which is actually why some people see that stimulant effect and it keeps weight down and so on, BUT it steals that chemical's longevity and future production. Once your off cigs, the drop off can be significant. No way TRT is a free ride, in that same sense.

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u/NerdyDan 6d ago

Some people recover with a controlled wean off steroids under the supervision of a doctor. But he has been on it for a long time so maybe not 

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u/BallsacSchrader 6d ago

it's less about weaning off and more about taking other PCT drugs.

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u/Agitated_Computer_49 6d ago

There are ways to restart your natural production, but at his age it's easier to just go onto trt.  

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u/zavenrains 6d ago

Yeah I'd guess he is on a true trt dose and possibly upped his HGH dose to burn more fat and stay cut. Probably holding less water as well.

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u/Paaraadox 6d ago

In practice he is.

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u/INannoI 6d ago

Oh he’s definitely on TRT, but that might be all.

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u/Grab-Born 5d ago

Your endocrine system can certainly can recover but is it the right move after being on for so long. It’s also easier to just up your dose when you inevitably get another role that requires a physique.

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u/arealhumannotabot 5d ago

A guy I know who’s in the bodybuilding scene said it’s that he’ll likely have to be on something (testosterone I think?) but not to the same level and any other shit he was on is gone

I’m paraphrasing

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u/iconofsin_ 6d ago

Huh, what is long term? I'm curious because I juiced off and on for a few years about 15 years ago. Curious if this is something I need to look into.

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u/87degreesinphoenix 6d ago

This guy was on roids for over 20 years. If you're not already aware of an issue from the juice, you're fine.

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u/ChiliTacos 6d ago

If you have this question 15 years later I wouldn't worry about it. You'd have known then if there was a problem.

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u/Green_Rays 6d ago

You're probably fine, but it doesn't hurt to go to talk to an endocrinologist to make sure

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u/HumansNeedNotApply1 6d ago

Eh, it's mostly testosterone. I hope Bautista never did anything more than some TRT (and under medical guidance), there are some bad heart and kidney problems with other stuff if he used them for too long.

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u/Intrepid_Preference3 6d ago

And I hope I'll find a baby unicorn tomorrow

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u/majoneskongur 5d ago

Dude‘s been a professional wrestler…he‘s been on a lot more „special supplements“ than test lol