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Not Melanie Trump… Politics

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u/Evil-in-the-Air 5d ago

She has to negotiate her way past several large flaps and folds before she can get to business.

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u/Pink_Sprinkles_Party 5d ago

Imagine the smell? She probably has nerve damage from all that poorly done filler in her cheeks so maybe it’s affected the 1st cranial nerve..

That’s a long shot though, and it’s probably bc she’s used to the smell of “putrid” that radiates off her herself. She’s nose blind.

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u/Miersix 5d ago

Not going to lie. Props to you for pulling the cranial nerves into this.

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u/Pink_Sprinkles_Party 5d ago

I mean with all that filler, and how poorly injected it is, her cranial nerves never stood a chance. Sadly it wasn’t 12 and 5 bc then maybe she’d actually stfu

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u/Miersix 5d ago

Haha, fair point. Watching all of the circus acts from Canada is pretty funny until you look at that same crap happening here in Alberta. Ugh

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u/Pink_Sprinkles_Party 5d ago

Right?!? I am also Canadian, and I’m mostly in it bc I can’t believe my eyes and ears…

However bc of the amount of involvement the US has in our country and many others it’s pretty important to pay attention to what’s happening. Not only that, but the populist Trumpism mentality is leaking into our politics too. I resent it greatly.

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u/Miersix 5d ago

The same mentality is happening here. In Alberta especially but also Federally with Poilievre. It is insanity. Watching it all unfold is terrifying. Polarization of parties, the divisivenes that is created...it is terrifying. Inherently, all people have similar cores, similar things they hold dear. This politics game makes us look left or right and causes so much turmoil.

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u/Latter_Painter_3616 5d ago

No. People do not all have anywhere near the same core or values or hopes or empathy. That is just absolutely false.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

So you support eugenics then?

All hail latter_painter, our wise and virtuous philosopher-king.

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u/Latter_Painter_3616 5d ago

How would you possibly take that conclusion out of my comment?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

It's a reference to The Myth of the Metals presented by Plato in The Republic, Plato (through Socrates) suggests a division of people into different classes based on their innate characteristics, and this idea ties into his notorious "myth of the metals."

The Myth of the Metals:

In The Republic, Plato proposes the noble lie or the "myth of the metals," which posits that different people have different types of souls made of different metals:

  1. Gold Souls (Rulers/Philosophers):

    • Who they are: The philosopher-kings, those with the greatest capacity for wisdom, reason, and virtue. They are meant to rule because they can govern rationally and make decisions for the common good.
  2. Silver Souls (Guardians/Warriors):

    • Who they are: The protectors of society, like soldiers and those who exhibit courage, strength, and honor. Their role is to defend the city and uphold the rules set by the rulers.
  3. Bronze and Iron Souls (Producers/Workers):

    • Who they are: The laborers, craftsmen, and merchants who are driven by appetites and desires. They focus on producing goods and fulfilling society's material needs but aren’t suited for leadership or protection.

Inherent Suitability and Social Roles:

Plato argues that people are born with different natures, and these natures determine their suitability for different roles in society. Gold souls are inherently suited to be rulers, silver souls to be warriors, and bronze/iron souls to be producers and workers. He takes this idea of inherent differences to suggest that justice in society involves each person doing the job they’re naturally suited for, with no one trying to change their role.

This line of thinking leads to the idea of a fixed social hierarchy, where people are predestined for certain roles. It also feeds into the more troubling idea that certain people should not aspire to roles beyond their natural capacities—leading to the potential justification of lower classes or even slaves in certain societies.

Eugenics and Control:

Now, here’s where it gets into some controversial territory. Plato, through Socrates, suggested a form of eugenics to maintain the purity of these soul classes. He believed that mating should be carefully regulated to ensure that the offspring would inherit the best qualities from the "gold" or "silver" souls, while discouraging those of "lesser" souls from mixing with higher ones. He imagined a sort of controlled breeding program to maintain the ideal society, which, in modern terms, absolutely reeks of eugenics.

Plato wasn’t literally advocating for a breeding program like modern eugenics, but he did believe in controlling who had children with whom to ensure the right types of people were produced for the good of the state. It’s a utopian vision that’s deeply problematic because it rests on the assumption that people are inherently unequal in their value and purpose from birth.

Why This All Matters:

  • Plato’s ideas suggest that people are inherently suited to different roles based on their "soul material," which could easily justify rigid class structures, inequality, and even slavery. He even implies that those with bronze or iron souls are naturally less capable of higher thinking and, therefore, suited for manual labor or lower societal positions.

  • The eugenics-like ideas emerge when Plato talks about how society should control reproduction to ensure that the right people (with “better souls”) rule, while the lower classes don’t mix and dilute those souls.

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u/Miersix 5d ago

I just mean that fundamentally, humans tend to care about family (whatever this looks like for the person...it could be families you choose, not families you are born into), not living in war or conflict/suffering, etc. I think you misunderstood what I mean. I should have been more concise I suppose. There is a lot more common ground than most people realize.

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u/DionBlaster123 5d ago

I mean to be fair barely 30 years ago, there was a politician in Quebec who literally blamed an election loss on "ethnic votes" and "money" (aka blaming Jews)

Shitty populist politicians are all over the place. It's especially bad in the U.S. bc of the global impact but even supposed enlightened Europe is having major issues with right wing empowerment...pretty much since 2014

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 5d ago

the populist Trumpism mentality is leaking into our politics too.

We told you we'd get revenge for Bieber and Nickelback. It just took us a little while ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/lucky-squeaky-ducky 5d ago

Of all the malpractices they could have skipped performing on her, THIS one slid under the radar…

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u/DionBlaster123 5d ago

Sometimes....ppl just need to learn how to age gracefully and graciously