r/GenZ • u/Cheesymaryjane 2002 • 1d ago
Anyone else lowkey excited TikTok is shutting down? Discussion
Not to fufill a Reddit stereotype
I never liked the app even though I use it and especially the culture surrounding it. I’m excited for what’s to come after it.
I liked vine better
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
I think it’s stupid considering how many businesses, artists, musicians, and content creators make their living off of TikTok. It’s not all just alleged brain rot. There’s cool stuff there if you actually bother looking.
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u/Own_Kangaroo_7715 Millennial 1d ago
In this day and age, anyone who is actively ignoring other social media platforms and only using one is doing themselves an extreme disservice to their brand power.
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
I’m not saying ignore other social media platforms, but with some of these accounts they get the most attention on TikTok because that’s where they started. Adventures in Aardia, also known as Roll for Sandwich, posts to Instagram and TikTok, but started off on TikTok. On TikTok, he has 2.2 million followers. On Instagram, he has 31.1 thousand.
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u/Own_Kangaroo_7715 Millennial 1d ago
Correct, seems like an easy transition for them though to just slide over to IG. Those people who watched on Tik Tok are not going to be on there anymore. So people that really care are going to follow those people. Brand loyalty to influencers is no different than Coke or Pepsi.
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
That’s like if Coke or Pepsi decided they were going to stop selling their products in the United States, but still expect to make the same amount of money exclusively selling elsewhere.
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u/PJ-Arch 1d ago
You’re completely forgetting that this isn’t the first time this has happened in the history of the internet.
When vine shut down all the good content creators form there moved over to Instagram and YouTube, those whose content was engaging enough were able to successfully transition and continue to be content creators on such platform.
If you’re reliant on the algorithm of a platform to make you successful rather than you succeeding on your own by creating content that brings back your audience again and again then maybe you weren’t that good to begin with. That’s it.
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u/madamedutchess Millennial 1d ago
Millennial creative here who has been releasing material online since 2004. It's ALWAYS a great idea to have content backed up somewhere other than one social media platform. I luckily have nearly all material I put on Myspace, Pure Volume, etc that would have other wise been completely lost like other artists. There is a LOT of content that is completely inaccessible. Now, am I uploading my college audition cassette? NO, but it is digitized at least.
I went viral in 2018 on Facebook. The video hit something like 4 million views and my page gained 30k followers. Put the same video on YouTube and the YT version seems to still be gaining constant interest. Went viral on TikTok June of this year. Had 56 followers one day and about 10k within a week. The same videos I put on TikTok usually go to both Instagram and YouTube with backups held on hard drives and cloud storage.
To the person who mentioned someone having 2.2 million followers on one platform vs 31k on another... that's just the nature of the game and will happen on various platforms throughout time. What is important as a creative is knowing how to keep in touch with those followers in case the platform goes down and having people be able to find your content in different ways.
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u/Own_Kangaroo_7715 Millennial 1d ago
omg. You just gave me super nostalgia mentioning Purevolume. xD I remember the first time I heard The Fall of Troy on there lol
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u/madamedutchess Millennial 17h ago
That was the first site I can remember being able to stream rather than download easily. I was heavily involved in the local and state band scene starting around 2005. A few years ago, I tried rediscovering many of the local bands I remember only to find their content gone from dead sites with no other archive or available online. At that point, it’s time to either try hunting down the long OOP CDs on Discogs or digging deep into a storage unit.
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u/whybanana234 1d ago
I personally miss the age of blogs. Long form essays that were written in a website and you could follow them and get emails when they posted. Lots of scientists, artists, travelers, etc were on it so it was quality stuff.
I think I forgot my cane in my bedroom...
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u/swccg-offload 1d ago
Business 101: you only own your website and email list. Anything built on another platform isn't yours. Your followers aren't your's, they're TikTok's, your likes aren't your's, they're IG's.
Do you think all those content creators read all the terms and conditions when creating their accounts? They should know that TikTok can pull the rug out from under them at any second.
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u/whybanana234 1d ago
Email is so underrated. So are websites.
I hate when businesses won't put in the 10 cent effort to maintain a website or have a mailing list for subscribers, but they put everything on Instagram/Facebook. Especially if they require you to book appointments by messaging them on Instagram. Congratulations you just lost one customer who otherwise actually liked you.
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u/LucyEleanor 1999 1d ago
Then cool stuff will be fine elsewhere...away from the brain rot
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
So we’re just ignoring the brain rot we grew up with? Like Fred and Annoying Orange?
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u/LucyEleanor 1999 1d ago
Of course not :) brain rot will always exist
It's the predatory nature and data gathering on minors that tiktok does to perpetuate specific brain rot that's concerning.
Don't think tiktok is being banned just because that's where kids hang out haha
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u/Weary_Cabinet_8123 1d ago
There is levels to brain rot and TikTok is the final boss. It’s not just the content itself, it’s the way the content is consumed and delivered.
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u/Tourist_Careless 1d ago
Yeah but I think it's safe to say the brain rot is worse on tiktok and appeals to a much broader audience.
This is by no means saying it isn't also terrible on other apps. But tiktok is the most distilled version. It doesn't really require you to read, comment, discuss, or think at all. Really is just mush.
No matter what social media you use there will be good creators on there. Shutting one down will obviously harm some of them. But that would be true no matter what.
It's more of a cost/benefit analysis and the costs of tiktok on an entire generation seem mighty high. And the kind of good content that's on there can easily be replicated on basically any other platform.
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
I remember in middle school one of my classmates arguing with a teacher about his plan to fill outer space with oxygen. His rationale was space might be endless, but we have an endless supply of oxygen because we have plants. Yeah TikTok may or may not affect the next generation, but I remember kids always being stupid.
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u/Daybreaker64 1d ago
exactly! i hate people who are like “tiktok is all garbage”, EVERY social media platform has garbage. you are in charge of your FYP. you need to be interacting with things you are interested in to find good content. that’s how it works everywhere.
this tiktok ban is just an excuse to make Meta bigger and destroy their competition.
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u/Fluid-Appointment277 1d ago
There is no reason why they can’t do the exact same shit on YouTube. Tik tok is a Chinese spy app plain and simple. You’re all morons
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
Here’s a newsflash for you: YouTube is owned by Google, who also spies on you. It’s the exact same as TikTok.
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u/AutoManoPeeing Millennial 1d ago
I'm not defending the practice, but this statement is just ignorant.
"Spying by our own/an ally government is EXACTLY the same as spying by an enemy government. Especially since the former has to get warrants, while the second is affiliated directly with the company. Oh and don't forget how China has an ever-growing secret police force that it sends out across the world, just like America doesn't! They're exactly the same!"
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
Google is not an ally
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u/AutoManoPeeing Millennial 1d ago
What does that have to do with anything I said?
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
You’re claiming that it’s better that Google is spying on us instead of other people.
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u/AutoManoPeeing Millennial 1d ago
Google and TikTok do not spy on you; they have your permission to collect this data. As they are not supposed to share identifying information, it's the governments of their countries that do the spying.
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
So if they have your permission, who fucking cares if they spy on you? It’s your own problem that you agree. Maybe you should be more careful with what information you’re willingly putting out there if you don’t agree with it?
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u/AutoManoPeeing Millennial 1d ago
You're still ignoring the part where TikTok is affiliated with the CCP, through law requiring a communist party committee to be established in major Chinese companies like ByteDance.
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u/klone_free 1d ago
I don't think the us gov has to get warrants for looking at your online stuff anymore for the most part. As of 2020 and probably still, not to mention the patriot act. Using Mozilla a la Casey Anthony style os probably your best bet
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u/Fine-Teach-2590 1d ago
At least google probably isnt going to use that data to extort and blackmail you. That’s why China wants it, it’s not some conspiracy about brainrotting us all it’s about finding (and extorting) that 0.01% of people on the site who are the staffer for a congressman or an intern at Lockheed Martin
Googles advertisers just want to sell you crap you don’t want
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u/smokedopelikecudder 2000 1d ago
Some other company is making a new TikTok as we speak
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u/TheHunterJK 1999 1d ago
UI probably won’t be as good.
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u/smokedopelikecudder 2000 1d ago
I’m guessing tik tok took a couple years to develop their UI as well. I’m not sure tho I haven’t used the tok
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u/Fine-Teach-2590 1d ago
Well if we’ve learned one thing about China it’s that they deserve to be the one getting ripped off for once lmao. Just take it
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u/ELEKTRON_01 1d ago
Everyone will probably switch to youtube shorts so not much will really change
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u/Boredom_fighter12 2001 23h ago
Instagram reels too, if tiktok is gone they have 2 options still not a big deal
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u/samishere6 2003 1d ago
it is? ive seen people say this like 50 times lol
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u/commercial-frog 1d ago edited 11h ago
Congress passed, and Biden signed, a law which would force Bytedance, the
country(edit:company) that owns TikTok, to either sell TikTok or else it would be banned. This is different from past attempts, where they were only talking about banning it. Bytedance is suing to prevent this and it may well end up in the supreme court. Bytedance has said it's notselling, so if the courts don't overrule this, TikTok will be banned starting in January. (although the courts may push it out while they consider the case)→ More replies (3)21
u/Yotsubato 1d ago
It’s just like Real ID. It’s never going to happen. It’s going to be delayed and it’s all fake news
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u/BadManParade 1d ago
Wym realID that’s actually happening in Cali
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u/Yotsubato 1d ago
Not the ID itself but more like it being actually required for travel.
They’re definitely going to push back that date next year.
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u/davvolun Millennial 1d ago
I definitely haven’t been paying attention to this one but my state has had real ID for a long time. I just looked it up, every state has it now. What's the problem (not with the law itself, lots of well-documented problems there — just the implementation)?
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u/RevampX 14h ago
That they’re trying to enforce the use for travel but keep pushing it back and will likely never be required as some states are rolling out Real ID as a permanent replacement for traditional ID (so everyone will eventually have one anyway).
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u/ZFG_Jerky 2005 1d ago
Biden set the date for January 19th 2025, literally the last day of his Presidency.
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u/gracelyy 2004 1d ago
Tiktok isn't all just dancing videos.
I mean, if we took "well if don't like it so it should be banned" logic with things, we'd get into muddy waters.
Tiktok can be informative and fun or bad and cringe. Just like all social media. Age limits, sure. Bans are odd and aren't as helpful as you may think.
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u/Simple_Dragonfruit73 1997 1d ago
It's not being banned because of dancing videos, it's being banned because the CCP owns it
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u/akayid6 1d ago
I think it’s mostly because the CCP bans US social media, it’s mostly retaliatory.
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u/TheDonFulio 1d ago
Right on the money! That and also CCP pushing propaganda heavy through their algorithms
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u/average-alt 2004 1d ago
I’m sorry but people that say this have never used tiktok…
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u/AadaMatrix Millennial 1d ago
I think it’s mostly because the CCP bans US social media, it’s mostly retaliatory.
Well. you thought wrong.
TikTok has access to your GPS location and China essentially has a heat map of the US population and the most condensed user base.
If China sees a TikTok user out in the middle of the desert walking in a big square, They can almost guarantee that's the location of a military base, and a guard doing rounds.
This is why having TikTok on government phones is already illegal and problematic.
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u/OCedHrt 1d ago
And content critical of China are removed and content critical of US are upranked.
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u/doctorpotterhead 22h ago
Part of the upkick in US critical content is because all the other platforms actively suppress it.
It's not free speech if the government gets to decide what we get to say and hear.
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u/Artifact-hunter1 1d ago
No. Rather, or not one uses it or even likes it is irrelevant.
You are basically praising a government for trampling on their own nation's constitution so the soulless corpses in power can feel like they did something while ignoring the actual problems while lining their pockets from their stock in the other competition. Could you imagine if some boomer tried to shut down reddit because they never used it before and they get more money if reddit's competition takes over? Not to mention that millions of Americans would basically have their First Amendment stripped because their platform is illegal.
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u/Suspicious_Dealer183 1d ago
Didn’t realize I missed the social media amendment.
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u/Artifact-hunter1 1d ago
Are you saying the First Amendment is only limited to quill and parchment? Thank all the gods and goddesses that you aren't making laws, or else we would still be stuck in the 18th century.
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u/green_waves25 1d ago edited 1d ago
… that’s not how that works. The argument for banning TikTok is that it’s a surveillance tool/security threat to American users… who are so used to their info being stolen that they don’t see a reason NOT to just give it away anymore. Also, the first amendment protects the public from the government. This has nothing to do with if a citizen can use a for-profit company’s services.
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u/Multioquium 1d ago
I don't really buy the security threat argument since foreign parties regularly buy that information from other social media platforms.
If they wanted US citizens' data to be safer, they should have passed legislation that protects them. Not just ban the one platform they can't influence directly
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u/davvolun Millennial 1d ago
I don't understand this argument. This has nothing to do with free speech in the U.S. AFAIK, there's nothing stopping the U.S. from banning a French or Canadian social media app anymore than a Singaporean app (with Chinese investors).
The issue is whether Byte Dance is giving information on U.S. citizens to China or if it’s secretly giving Chinese propaganda to U.S. citizens. Again, AFAIK neither of those things have been shown true or false.
Am I wrong?
Personally, I don't care either way, but my partner loves TT.
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u/this_is_a_red_flag 1998 21h ago
no, you’re not lol. no idea why free speech is being brought up here. the ccp has the right to the data of its companies, and tiktok is a chinese app.. it’s really that simple. members in high ranking government already can’t/don’t have the app
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u/Fluid-Appointment277 1d ago
People like you are the problem. “I never likes the app even though I use it…” admitting that you use a product you don’t like simply because you are a follower
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u/maybefuckinglater 1d ago
People on Reddit think you get brownie points for hating on TikTok and all their "CrInGe DaNcE vIdEos" when they never even used the app and are unaware it's a vast range of content just like any other social media platform. The irony is 75% percent of content on Reddit is just repost videos from TikTok.
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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 1d ago
exactly. Its all so tiresome that they propose a ban although its one of the last social mrdia that is not compeltely soulless and still has some levels of creativity tbh.
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u/Green_Treat2348 1d ago
It’s not shutting down
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u/ZFG_Jerky 2005 1d ago
They won't sell, and they won't get anywhere in the courts.
Shit is as good as dead.
All that's left is to wait for January.
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u/bobthetomatovibes 1999 1d ago
No, you don’t even have to personally like the app to recognize why this is a horrible idea for so many reasons, not even just on first amendment grounds and the kind of sweeping power it gives the government with many reverberating effects that go beyond this one app (which is horrible on its own… there’s a lot of things I don’t use or don’t like that I don’t want the government to ban).
But also like… TikTok is an app people build their livelihoods on. It’s changed the lives of small business owners, music artists, authors, fashion designers, visual artists, actors, comedians, content creators, and many more people in pretty much every industry, as well as enriched the lives of different subcultures and communities unrelated to career/industry. It’s not just dumb dancing videos and alleged brainrot (which exist on every social media platform).
And whenever people say, “If it gets banned, there’s always Ig Reels and YT shorts,” I know they know nothing about the actual culture of the app and they assume that all places you can post short-form video content are created equal. TikTok is a unique platform and banning it will have significant negative effects on the 170 million Americans who use it and rely on it for community, career, news, and daily life.
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u/czechyesjewelliet 1d ago
Wasn't Vine in the same boat? I really think you're missing the mark on this one. I also believe the concerns over sovereignty of personal data and national security risks are enough to ban tiktok. Just wait 5 minutes and we'll have a new replacement.
Personal data vs data aggregation issues are only going to become more predominant as those industries continue to thrive. I think it's going to come to a head, especially as A.I. and algorithm-based content curation becomes more egregious. We'll see repercussions and laws put into place as the Internet and tech continues to evolve.
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u/bobthetomatovibes 1999 1d ago
Vine’s only similarity to TikTok was that it was a short-form video app that created lots of cultural memes. In terms of the actual community aspect and potential to change people’s lives, they aren’t equivalent at all. TikTok’s algorithm is very unique. (I don’t believe in the “national security” argument as a justification for banning things either).
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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 1d ago
exactly. You are spot on. The people saying bUt vINe dont know what they are talking about.
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u/duncancaleb 1997 1d ago
No, why would I be excited about it? The US wants to shut it down because they can't control the information being shared on the app combined with massive and rising sinophobic sentiment in America leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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u/Simple_Dragonfruit73 1997 1d ago
China has been banning our media, entertainment and technology since the 80s, and they have no regard for our patent laws. The CCP can go fuck themselves honestly. I wouldn't extend this behavior towards any Chinese individual, but their government is an adversary of the US and to think otherwise is ignorance.
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u/duncancaleb 1997 1d ago
They are literally our largest trading partner. We are supposed to be the free world, why are we trying to emulate what we allegedly hate?
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u/ExcitingTabletop 19h ago
Nope. Canada/Mexico trade spots for largest and second largest.
EU and China trade spots for third and fourth place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_the_United_States
Canada and Mexico are significantly more balanced trade than China or EU. Hence why we want to promote more trade with them, and promote less trade with EU and China.
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u/firespark84 1d ago
Fear of an authoritarian government gaining influence over our population and the media they consume is not ‘sinophobic’. The Chinese people are not the problem, the Chinese government is. I don’t agree with government banning stuff, but the proponents of banning tik tok are right that the Chinese communist party and its associated companies are gaining a concerning amount influence over the general public and their data.
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u/Lambaline 1999 1d ago
My FYP is full of actual creators (people who make things, 3d printer people, engineers, etc), hikers, photographers and pilots. All things I love and I'd be very sad if it went away
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u/TheMenio 23h ago
They won't. You will find it on different platforms. People won't stop making cool stuff.
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u/CrispyDave Gen X 1d ago
Hard to believe that something worse will replace it, but that's how these things usually go.
I'm coming around to this idea we should remove video from the internet and go back to text and pictures.
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u/Elegant-Champion-615 2000 1d ago
The next alternative is Facebook/Instagram reels… That is already by far a worse experience.
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u/creativename111111 1d ago
It’ll all be IG reels Facebook reels aren’t used by anyone under the age of like 40 although instagram reels’s current state might deter potential users
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u/Gamefart101 1d ago
IG and Facebook have the same reels. Its just you have 2 seperate algorithms depending on if you login though Facebook app or the Instagram app
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u/tlonreddit Gen X 1d ago
Short form content addiction is a real thing and those who are addicted will take their business elsewhere.
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u/Artifact-hunter1 1d ago
"Next, we need to outlaw radio and the moving picture. Because Johnny said they are called the idiot box for a reason, and Johnny never lies."
Read the text above in a Trans-Atlantic accent
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u/xaiur 1d ago
I don’t use TikTok but i will say it sets a bad precedent because the reason is dubious to say the least
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u/alexandria3142 2002 1d ago
Are they really going to shut it down? I find it much more enjoyable than any other platform honestly if I’m wanting to watch videos. I mean, almost any video I see on other social media sites is literally from tiktok.
But I have to say, tiktok especially is one of those apps that you have to make it what you want it. At first I got dumb videos and I wasn’t a fan of it, until I started using it to watch cooking, baking, gardening, homesteading, animal husbandry, science stuff, etc. It’s a large reason I’m looking into getting a property with acreage now to start a homestead, and I know so many things I wouldn’t have before. It’s been a huge learning tool for me, and entertainment as well with funny animal videos. I’m going to be pretty disappointed once it’s done, although back when they first discussed shutting it down, I followed as many creators as I could on other platforms
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u/FictionLover007 1d ago
I think I’m just a little confused on how they expect to implement such a ban.
As far as I’m aware, unless the companies that collaborate to provide TikTok to people all agree to collectively remove the app’s functionality (phone providers, TikTok’s parent company, cellular data providers, etc.), many people in the US will still have access to TikTok. This would be easier if all of this was state-controlled, but in the US, it’s not. That decision is in the hands of the shareholders, and I’m sure more than a few of them have financial interests in TikTok.
And it definitely isn’t possible to force every individual citizen to remove the app from their phones even if the government did incentivize those companies into removing the app’s functionality.
Also to be clear, TikTok isn’t shutting down. It’s an internationally used platform. Even if people in the US can’t use it, it’s still available in most other countries, barring a few exceptions. And there are ways around those exceptions.
So I think I’m just confused as to how the government actually plans to do this in a way that doesn’t reveal this whole farce to be a massive waste of time and money.
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u/cli_jockey 1d ago
They don't need to force individuals to remove it. They just go to the market controllers (app stores in this case) and tell them to block it and its functionality or get fined up the ass. They would also force Tier1 ISPs to block the traffic. VPNs could easily get around the traffic part, but you'd probably need to side load the app (no idea if it has a desktop/web version, I've never used the app) as the controllers would have rendered the official app useless unless you don't update your phone.
Regardless it's not getting banned IMO. Unless they can say it's a national security issue, they can't really justify it since it could be considered censoring free speech.
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u/GoldieDoggy 2005 1d ago
Unless they can say it's a national security issue
Isn't that the main reason the government IS trying to get them to sell, though? With the ban as the only alternative?
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u/Vegetable-Werewolf-8 1999 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, it does more harm than good, that's before we add the fact that the company has to sellout their users to the communist party anytime they demand it. Plus the fact that tik tok already apparently soft censors content that is critical of China. Tik tok is really just a bad joke and I'm sick of hearing it. Can't wait till it's gone.
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u/ShakeItLikeIDo 1d ago
Thats how Reddit is. You get banned for criticizing one specific political party
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u/19Nevermind 2000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not at all, Tik tok is one of the best social medias imo, and no more damaging to one’s mental health than Instagram or twitter or anything else. People just think they’re unique or cool when they hate on it for some reason 😂 Tik Tok is far from only bein a platform of dances and memes. And even if it was? Who cares 😂 the only reason it’d be getting banned is because the ultra rich want it to be, and probably just so they can make money off of their own version of American tik tok.
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u/xSparkShark 1d ago
Literally every other social media has copied the formula with short video content. TikTok as a platform might disappear, but the content its format has spawned isn’t going anywhere. I guess it’s worth being excited about
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u/czechyesjewelliet 1d ago
The same thing happened with Vine. Just wait for the TikTok compilations to be posted to Youtube.
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u/goonsquadgoose 1d ago
It would take the current owners burning up a pile of cash worth billions for it to be shut down lol. Money is always the determining factor with stuff like this.
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u/Smalandsk_katt 2008 1d ago
Nothing against the app itself, however hopefully it helps restricting the influence of China and Russia on Western public opinion.
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u/CriticalArugula7870 1d ago
Their parent company byteDance literally will just create another one. It’s called Lemon8
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u/Agent666-Omega Millennial 1d ago
I think the only "valid argument" here is the relationship with China. But it's really giving Chinese Exclusion Act, but for businesses. And forcing to sell the business is extreme. Why not force them to host their data centers here in the US? Like being wary of China is healthy. But we went from 0 to 100 on this
People love to shit on TikTok, but here we are doing the same thing with YT shorts only reason I use YT shorts more is because after watching medium form content like clips of TDS or John Oliver, I want to casually scroll through some short form.
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u/CrackedUboat 1d ago
I work with several companies that use TikTok commercially and this is gonna make them cry if true lol.
On the other hand it’s one less integration we have to maintain!
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u/goonsquadgoose 1d ago
It isn’t shutting down. The law mandating this is likely going to be overturned and even if it isn’t repealed, do you think the app won’t be sold to an American company? As in the current owners or tiktok are gonna throw billions of dollars in the trash?
I was anti-tiktok for years but I setup an account about 6 months ago because my partner uses it so often and it’s honestly awesome. I discover way more bands, find way more recipes, and hear a wider variety of opinions than I ever did on Twitter or Reddit.
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u/SnooPeripherals6557 1d ago
I’m very high-key excited fuck TT. TEMU and SHEIN and the other bullshit companies also need to be shut out of US.
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u/Nefarious_Corndog 1d ago
I’m Hikey excited, all social media has issues, TikTok has never given me good vibes. It’s amazing to me how many people turned a blind eye to TikTok allowing kiddie p0rn and basically having access to basically everything on your phone.
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u/bamabelvedere 1d ago
Gunna admit some shit, I used it for a while: found out a girl I was following was doing the little dances almost naked was 14, got disturbed and felt sick, un-installed it and never looked back.
So from where I'm standing, Tik-Tok was basically Epsteins Island that anyone could access.
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u/0nlyeli 1d ago
No I don’t like my freedoms being stepped on. You can dislike the content on the app (which is still wild as there’s everything on there, your algorithm is based on what you interact with) and still see how this is not a good move for us the people. I don’t need the government telling me what I can and can’t look at. Along side that, I have personally found so much enjoyment and laughter from TikTok, people like Terri Jo’s lives have me belly laughing until it hurts. Then there’s artists like Laufey and Chappell Roan that without TikTok I wouldn’t have found them otherwise
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u/Nickyy_6 1999 1d ago
I think it will be positive for society. Yes there are benefits ton local business and artists but overall so many studies show how addicting and damaging it is to people. It literally helps cause depression and hurts our society.
Many counties around the world have banned it. I don't think it's crazy we ban a scientifically proven addictive, depression causing thing.
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u/ialo00130 1997 1d ago
If Tiktok shuts down, Temu and Reddit should too, due to their own funding by the Chinese government.
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u/Jaded_Drag855 1d ago
I tried using TikTok before and I couldn't get used to the format, just scrolling from one to another guided by some black box algorithm made no sense to me. The content all too often feels trashy and demented, self-destructive a lot too
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u/Zealousideal_Ask3633 1d ago
You can post short videos everywhere I don't think it'll matter much.
Will probably be another short video vine type site taking it's place
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u/WeebMaker 1d ago
no. I don’t use tiktok at all anymore, but people should still have the freedom to do what they want. And content creators livelihoods are at stake here, granted tiktok doesn’t pay them that much, and you can’t really have a fan base unless tiktok pushes your video on the FYP, but still.
also shutting it down makes no sense “it’s Chinese spyware”. Dude. They don’t care about your privacy (never have) EVERY COMPANY HAS YOUR INFO. fuck, your info can be bought easily. Google has been tracking you for ads since forever.
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u/BoringAccount12345 17h ago
Nope, it’s just politicians trying to control the narrative of our society. Sets a bad precedent
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Everyone should be excited, I mean there are bullshit stuff on Instagram and youtube but educational content also exist besides that, but TikTok is just pure bullshit with all that dancing and fake challenges
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u/Practical-Ad6548 2001 1d ago
I’ve never used it and I prefer text posts to videos so I don’t have a stake here
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u/DrankTooMuchMead Millennial 1d ago
I remember when Musk bought Twitter and then renamed it about a year ago. Reddit became flooded with those refugees.
Now most of my comments are buried immediately. This one probably will be, too.
Don't get me started on posting.
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u/HistoricalSpecial982 1d ago
This completely on the US. Vine was a sensation and could have became what Tik Tok was today, but the powers that be were dumb enough to shut it down and let a Chinese platform take its place.
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u/witherd_ 1d ago
The alternatives are Shorts and Reels, which are worse in pretty much every way. Kinda doubt something new replaces it
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u/Longjumping_Quail_40 1d ago
I think as a retaliatory action this is very satisfying, saying this as a Chinese.
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u/mamajuana4 1d ago
No because it would be inhibiting our ability to share experiences and reach each other on a larger platform which has been really eye opening and progressive
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u/jacobthefoxxx 1d ago
All social media should be regulated. Too bad only TikTok gets the boot while the rest continue to rot our brains
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u/Advanced-Hour-108 2004 1d ago
I think it’s complete fucking stupid how politicians are shitting their pants at another site that’s trying to fix their security flaws but yet still have Twitter and Facebook running around scot free when they too have been stealing people’s information without no warning to hackers in 2nd and 3rd world countries
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u/I-Am-GlenCoco 1d ago
Remember when Trump was going to ban TikTok and everyone said it was the dumbest idea ever? Now Biden's doing it so it's good. Go figure.
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u/blakealanm 1d ago
I'm scared about TikTok shutting down because it's going to mean that Facebook, Amazon, YouTube, Instagram, and the rest of the big platforms basically control the market instead of just being players in the game.
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u/RicePlusPork 2004 23h ago
Oh my god I’m so tired of this “TikTok bad” shit on reddit 🙄. There’s so much more than dance videos and cringe that you think of when you hear TikTok.
There’s actually quality content on that platform, comedy, activism, content for every single niche you can think of. You’re not better cuz you use reddit
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u/Far_Cheesecake1568 23h ago
Oh no content creators will have to contribute to society by getting real jobs!
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u/Banananutcracker 22h ago
I got off tiktok about 6 months ago because I was in a brain rot cycle. But that’s what was best for me. I know several people have a healthy relationship with the app and it sucks that it’ll be taken from them. But you know in one month something else will come in and take its place
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u/Jadey4455 22h ago
Good riddance. Ive never used it before so doesnt really affect me much. Ive dumped a couple girls over tiktok addictions so glad thats over
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u/SleepyHobo 1997 19h ago
Reddit is arguably far worse than TikTok, but somehow manages to escape mainstream news and criticism. Reddit is so susceptible to propaganda and manipulation. Anyone who's been here prior to 2012 has been able to see this website transform into a monster.
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u/mito_chon_mon 16h ago
Everyone wants vine back but they don't realize that tiktok is the new vine. No one has made an alternative except for tiktok, not to mention reels and shorts are pretty much the same as tiktoks.
How reddit views tiktok is how non-reddit users view reddit, quite ironic imo.
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u/osama_bin_guapin 2006 15h ago
The nostalgia people our age have for Vine is absolute revisionism, because it was really no better. Half the time, the shit that was trending on Vine was Lele Pons’ shitty “loud = funny” humor or King Bach doing backflips or other equally stupid content. The only reason we have good memories of Vine is because we only remember the good Vines and the ones that are featured in Vine compilations
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u/osama_bin_guapin 2006 15h ago
“I don’t like it and therefore it should be banned” is laughably stupid logic
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1d ago
It is? For real? Like, this isn’t a lie?
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u/bobthetomatovibes 1999 1d ago
It’s not “shutting down,” but it is sadly being banned by the U.S. government unless TikTok can convince the courts to halt the ban
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u/Ginkoleano 1d ago
I’m high key. It’s social cancer, spreading contagion as far as the eyes can scroll.
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u/woodworkingfonatic 1d ago
Honestly have never used it and I notice that many people who do use it are the type to blast it at full volume in public and piss other people off. Or they are the type to actively post on it and show their ass and actively are assholes for views. I think both are bad and there’s entire subreddits like r/imTheMainCharacter dedicated to people who are assholes on TikTok (not solely TikTok but most of the time). Or they just take other peoples content and suck.
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u/throwjobawayCA 1d ago
Yes very happy, people get a ton of (mid)information on Tik tok and I’ve seen in real time how it can be harmful.
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u/Pezutasapa 1d ago
You need to look at what’s in the bill along with the shut down, don’t be so tickled.
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u/Zealousideal-Math50 1d ago
Nah homie I’m not a fan of the govt shutting down an app for really nebulous reasons, which don’t seem that serious considering how many of them continue to use it.
Amazon is also a big supporter of the ban - gee I wonder why.
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u/cyberspirit777 1996 1d ago
I think it's wild to applaud the government for censoring it's citizens.
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u/SecretInfluencer 1d ago
Vine wasn’t better. It was just the first successful one of its kind. Tik Tok is WAYYYY better.
And even then fuck no. Ignoring my own personal feelings of the app this is just stupid.
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u/Random_Frnd_7738 2010 1d ago
if TikTok and Murder Drones never existed. 2024 would feel like 2000s nostalgia
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u/No-Description-5922 1d ago
I use Tik tok to watch food and laugh at dumb shit. Instead I got god damn Kamala Harris paid ads every other post
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u/Practical-Election59 2008 1d ago
I never even knew it was shutting down. I had fun on there, but I also kind of hated the design of the app, au revoir.
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u/wheresmyvape11 1997 1d ago
is it actually getting shut down? I don't keep up with this stuff anymore after how many times they've said it's getting shut down
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u/_above_user_is_gay 2003 1d ago
They would just all move to youtube shorts. the damage has already been done
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u/DahliaExurrana 1999 1d ago
I kinda hope it does purely because I utterly despise the fucking newspeak trend that basically originates from it.
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u/tacticalcop 2003 22h ago
breh they’re never shutting down tiktok. can we shut up about it please and thank you! tired of seeing this ‘unpopular opinion’ that everyone seems to have every day
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u/mimitchi33 1998 20h ago
I only really watched the nostalgia videos on there, and especially liked the ones where it shows deadstock stores (stores that still sell items from the 90's and 2000's in their inventory despite being discontinued elsewhere).
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u/PseudocodeRed 19h ago
No, a lot of people make a living on TikTok and it's a shame that it is being taken from them in such a way. However, I am still in favor of the ban as there are many legitimate national security risks that come from having all of our citizens give their data to a company who has no right of refusal if China asks for that data. Sure, our data is just going to be sold to Meta and Google instead, but I for one would rather be spied on by an American company than a Chinese one.
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u/Dope_Reddit_Guy 1996 13h ago
No and I think gen z needs to remember that TikTok has major support from democrats to shut it down and Republicans don’t want to.
Kamala gets elected - TikTok shut down
Trump gets elected - we keep TikTok
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u/timg_exe 13h ago
I think everyone has an individualized experience when it comes to this platform. Some people use it to find useful information. Some people use it to run their business. Shutting down an entire platform seems like a painfully transparent way in which our voices are being stifled.
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u/Justatransguy29 10h ago
I don’t enjoy the format all that much and I’m tired of watching live war videos so that’s a plus, but I do think it is a huge loss for a huge number of businesses so I can’t sit here and be like “yay a bunch of people are losing their livelihoods” and all because of a mostly irrelevant data security thing that other companies here already do and sell to people anyway. It’s not as if Meta and Google isn’t selling our info to whoever pays anyway.
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u/XCivilDisobedienceX 2001 9h ago
As a libertarian I'm against tiktok being banned on principal. Everyone knows it's a CCP spyware app, but everyone still uses it. People should have the freedom to choose if they want to be spied on by the CCP.
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