Florida sheriff fed up with school shooting hoaxes posts boy's mugshot to social media
https://apnews.com/article/school-shooting-threats-arrests-kids-mugshot-florida-345a409f8e8feda3215f71cd205c9eb3771
u/Faokes 1d ago
When I was in sophomore year of high school, a kid in my class was talking about his plans for a mass shooting. He had photos with guns on his Facebook. I reported it. His parents said he was just really into History Channel, and put him in counseling. He remained in school, and no real action was taken. They didnāt hide who reported it, so I was afraid. Heās now an adult with a job. I think of him every time there is a shooting or a threat of one, and wonder. Maybe it would have been better for him to be exposed to everyone, like this. Or maybe it would have pushed him over the edge.
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u/chevybow 1d ago
My best friend in middle school brought a bunch of knives to school one day because he was getting bullied and he said if they try to beat him again he would fight back. If he was caught with those knives Iām assuming heād be expelled and sent to juvie.
The kids found out about the rumors of the knives and decided not to risk it (I think they were planning on beating him up on that day specifically for some reason). Today heās a PhD student and assistant professor for a reputable university in the country.
I often wonder the same thing- would strict punishment have helped or pushed him over the edge? Would it have prevented his current success? Itās hard to tell.
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u/ritmoon 1d ago edited 1d ago
I find it interesting that we are talking about how a child who was forced into a horrible decision about how to best defend himself should be punished for it instead of talking about how the feral kids who pushed him to the point of desperation should be.
Iām glad your buddy turned out well.
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u/Positive_Benefit8856 1d ago
When I was in HS I had a summer job. Myself and 2 others were bullied relentlessly, we reported it repeatedly to the bus driver, the only adult on site, and it was ignored. She even took their side a couple of times. I went home crying and telling my mom multiple times that I wanted to kill myself. She reached out to the people, and was told it was just boys being boys, and I didnāt need to come in to work if it was as bad as I said it was. The bullying didnāt stop until I got hit in the back of the head with a chunk of rock hard dried dirt. At that point I marched across the field and beat the shit out of the biggest of the bullies. Sadly sometimes you can go through all of the right channels, and try to do everything right, and the only thing that ends up working is the violence you were trying to avoid.
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u/bananafobe 1d ago
Can you envision a scenario wherein him getting expelled and sent to juvenile detention would improve his life?Ā
Anything's possible, but it sounds like everyone involved was incredibly fortunate it worked out how it did.Ā
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u/BelievableToadstool 1d ago
lol even juvie in the US is not actually meant to rehabilitate. Itās all about punishment, they just have to wrap it in more red tape and some ārestrictionsā.
Lol juvie is not a safe place bruv, and does not usually lead to children behaving better since they associate with only other ātrouble makersā and learn things for that whole time.
They also get their first taste of institutionalization, preparing them for being used to such treatment as adults in the prison system
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u/os_kaiserwilhelm 1d ago
Was this a public school?
This represents a complete failure on the part of the state to allow physical bullying get to the point that one student is bringing in weapons to be prepared to defend himself.
For the state to then seek to punish him further had they found out would only further demonstrate a failure on their part to understand why a student felt the need to defend themselves. Certainly, some type of segregation would be necessary in the immediate aftermath ( can't have a student bringing knives to school ), while still evaluating the threat level posed by the student, as the safety of the students needs to be the highest priority.
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u/Idontlookinthemirror 1d ago
This was incredibly common growing up in the 80s and 90s in public schools where I lived. Bullying was ignored, and if it was raised to the attention of the administrators then they would blame the victim 99% of the time. Bullies were usually athletes, popular kids, or the children of teachers, staff, or admins.
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u/Adrenrocker 14h ago
The whole "Zero Tolerance" policy pushes made it worse. "I don't care who started it, you both are in trouble" just encouraged bullies and discouraged kids doing anything about it.
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u/dan_t_mann 1d ago
Oppenheimer poisoned his professor's apple, and unlike in the movie, it was discovered and he was almost charged and expelled. But that was 100 years ago.
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u/SPECTREagent700 1d ago
Thatās ridiculous they didnāt protect your identity but as for āmaybe it would have been betterā, isnāt him not doing it and now being adult with a job the best possible outcome?
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u/Faokes 1d ago
The people around him are still afraid he will snap and bring a gun to work someday, because nothing has been done to help him.
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u/Less_Leather3641 1d ago
He went to counseling, what more do you want? He didnāt actually do anything
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u/majungo 1d ago
I once wrote a thinly-veiled school shooting fantasy as part of a class assignment. One of the other students saw it and brought it to the teacher, and she did nothing about it. I like to think she knew me well enough to know that I had no access to guns, nor any more rage than the average high school student, but that I did really like pushing people's buttons. Of course, I turned out relatively normal. I wonder a lot how differently things would have worked out if I had been treated like more of a threat than I was.
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u/Nerd2000_zz 1d ago
Exactly this. I get we have an issue with school shootings but we cannot stop it by being the thought police.
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u/DreadPirateNot 1d ago
Had a different issue I heard of.
A kid (Angela) was spreading rumors about another kid (Beth) making a hit list. Beth self reported it to the administration that Angela was spreading the rumor about her. Beth was then removed from school, she and her parents were interviewed by local police, and police checked that the parentsā guns were secured.
It was deemed to be an unsubstantiated rumor. Beth withdrew from school later the at week because the rumors had gotten around that she had a hit list.
Thereās multiple sides to this issue. These people making false claims need to be dealt with as well.
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u/uknow_es_me 1d ago
absolutely.. red flag laws are just about the only thing that will turn the tide against school shootings or even mass shootings in general. We cannot allow that to be abused.. throw the book at anyone making a false accusation.
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u/Arthanau 1d ago
I was listed by a student named as a credible threat who was arrested. They took her to Juvie. Fuck pretending it's a silly little joke. I still haven't slept peacefully since.
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u/Langstarr 1d ago
When I was in high school we had a similar situation. I was #2 on the list. I've since moved far away and she got some help after she went to the alternative school. She seems to be doing okay but I wouldn't want to be within 50 miles of her.
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u/xheavenzdevilx 1d ago
Man reading your comment just brought the face of middle school classmate back into my head who got caught with a list in her locker and some very detailed writings of what she wanted to do to those people. She ended up getting moved to the alternative school, but you kinda got me wondering where she is now.
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u/Langstarr 1d ago
Yeah I found her on social media some years ago - married, has some kids, everyone looks happy.
She had a list and a gun. She got scared and tried to throw the gun in the trash but it got noticed and traced back to her pretty quickly. Then she was just whisked away. I went away to boarding school after and it was definitely nice to have distance.
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u/HippiMan 1d ago
God damn, that's a lot further than I expected them to have gotten. Don't really know why I'm surprised, though. Hope you're alright.
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u/Langstarr 1d ago
This was at least 17 years ago. I do wonder if it had been under our current atmosphere if she would have felt bold enough to go through with it.
The emotions come up when school shootings happen of course. But I'm okay otherwise. Thank you, and I hope you're alright too.
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u/savealltheelephants 1d ago
I had a classmate with erratic behavior tell me to my face āif I ever shot up the school Iād shoot you first.ā Everyone at the table was like wtf man thatās not funny.
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u/Numnum30s 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wouldnāt be able to, either. If they arenāt physically locked up or incapacitated then they could come for you at any time. I wouldnāt let my guard down if I were you. Especially in Texas. My friend was a teacher and murdered by an ex student. It took 15 years to catch the guy as it was thought to be a random victim killing.
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u/Itstheswanno 1d ago
Curious, did others see you as a bully or was there anything that you did that could have seen you end up on a list that you know of?
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u/CupcakesAreMiniCakes 1d ago
I know it doesn't mean much but I'm sending some healing and protective universe vibes your way
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u/No_Size_1765 1d ago
If legal I very much support it. I wonder if the parents will be charged.
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u/RedChaos92 1d ago
If I'm understanding Florida law correctly from what I've googled, in 1994 the law was amended to allow names and photos of arrested minors to be publicly made available if 1.) they have three or more misdemeanors, 2.) if the crime was a felony, or 3.) if the crime would have been a felony if committed by an adult.
NAL and laws can be confusing, but that's what I've gathered from looking around online.
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u/Spidremonkey 1d ago
This is true. If a charge is pressed in central Florida, your name even goes in the fucking Orlando Sentinel as an organ of public record, juvenile or no.
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u/2SP00KY4ME 1d ago
The loose regulations around publishing criminal information in Florida is part of why the "Florida man" trend is such a thing, it's just a lot easier to get info on Floridians. That and they're crazy.
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u/elkab0ng 1d ago
I imagine that if there have been disruptions due to these idiots, there could be civil actions as well. Itās all fun and games till the city, school district, police department, and 500 angry parents come after your kid for being a dumb shit and calling in these kinds of threats for giggles
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u/Veeksvoodoo 1d ago
In Florida, if itās a felony charge then itās legal.
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u/deathtronic 1d ago
Wait. Did you read the article too?!
Under Florida law, juvenile court records are generally exempt from public release ā but not if the child is charged with a felony, as in this case.
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u/FatSkipper21 1d ago
Charged with what exactlty?
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u/prosecutor_mom 1d ago
Depends on precise facts but child neglect? Contributing to the Delinquency of a minor? Aiding and abetting? Most courts now apply reasonably foreseeable negligence as sufficient proof for a reckless crime (Massachusetts charged a dad with manslaughter after his 15yo accidentally hit & killed someone while driving an suv he'd given them car keys & permission to drive)
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u/exZodiark 1d ago
how dare they treat the boy with a kill list and weapons like a criminal my gosh what an awful man that sheriff must be
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u/newX7 1d ago
Iāve seen so many people on Reddit who say kids should be given a break and shouldnāt be punished for the messed up things they do because āthey are kids and kids do stupid shitā aka ākids will be kids/boys will be boysā.
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u/givin_u_the_high_hat 1d ago
They just canāt ever get it wrong. If this kid is guilty, fine. If some kid lies about another kid just to get them in trouble - and some innocent kidās face gets posted - thatās gonna be a shit show.
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u/Caraway_Lad 1d ago
None of this is exclusively based on hearsay, though, and it doesnāt have to be.
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u/Ok-Finish4062 1d ago
As someone who worked at a school that had a shooting and another where the swat team was called, this shit is NOT funny.
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u/ConscientiousObserv 1d ago
I just read a case where a kid told his principal about another kid walking around school with a bullet. Both kids were suspended because they said the kid didn't alert the staff fast enough.
I get the significance of what the sheriff is doing, but wonder about kids being afraid to say something for fear of reprisals.
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u/Arkenhaus 1d ago
Just kind of curious how this would work. Let's say the kid keeps out of trouble for the rest of his childhood (18). Normally a per can petition the court to expunge their records. Not sure how that would work should the internet forever keep a copy of his mugshot.
what the kid did is terrible and some of them also swat others and a whole host of cyber bullying. If they are rehabilitated, show remorse, make amends; is this the kind of thing that should haunt them forever? Its a valid question that I don't have an answer for.
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u/Jodid0 1d ago
I do believe that criminals who serve their time deserve the ability to become functioning members of society again after they are rehabilitated.
That being said, the internet is forever, and everyone deals with that regardless of criminal behavior. What you said 15 years ago on social media can and may be used against you for jobs and other things. So making death threats against children definitely will be forever. Such are the consequences of people's actions
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u/thewhitecascade 16h ago
Hereās the real shocker. You would think the internet is forever, but it turns out not to be the complete truth. Digital content is constantly being removed from existence, ask any video game fan who has watched their favorite Nintendo e-shop and beloved virtual console goods disappear into the ether when Nintendo decided to shut down. Mugshot aggregator websites all eventually close up shop and move on, I know personally since I was trying to look up a friendās mugshot from 5 years ago and I could not find a single reference to it, when it had been there easily accessible about 2 years ago. And the truth is although you might think that official government websites have all of their documentation online and available for download the reality is that they often drop the ball when it comes to hosting full historical datasets of public records. At some point the old stuff gets purged, just like those Gmail accounts that have been inactive for 2 years. Itās the vast digital graveyard. The internet archive attempts to fill in some of the gaps with this missing data but it isnāt immediately and easily visible via your standard Google search. So, donāt be fooled into thinking that everything that has ever been online lasts forever. The truth is far more nuanced.
However, porn is the exception to this rule.
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u/Jodid0 14h ago
I work with technology and digital media all day, you're right that digital media, like all other forms of media, can be lost or destroyed for any number of reasons.
But for public records specifically, there's a good chance that there is in fact still a record. You can usually get things like arrest records and/or mugshots by submitting an official information request directly to the city or PD that the arrest was made in. Not always can this be done online, especially if the media was never digitized, which is increasingly rare these days. They don't usually host all records online, but they should still have most things stored. In alot of cases its legally required for them to do so and they are even audited for it. Criminal justice records are often in their own legal category of public records that have much more stringent requirements for retention.
In this case with the death threats, certainly this made the news, and online newsprint usually IS saved, if not by the news organization themselves, then by archiving sites. The point being that a clever person, and/or someone with privileged access to data such as third party background check companies, can probably find alot of the things that the average person cannot. Arrest records are definitely one of those things, even when "the records are sealed" or your record is expunged, youd be surprised what you can get when yoy know what and how to look. I have been through very extensive background checks and they can definitely find out about stuff like this.
The point of the saying "The internet is forever" is that you can never count on anything being destroyed, and actually it's more likely than not that it will be preserved somewhere, you just need to know where to look. Social media is definitely one of those things to never count on information being unavailable in the future.
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u/Toxic_Orange_DM 1d ago
Good start, but until the parents are arrested as well, things won't change at the pace we need them too.
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u/Savings_Young428 1d ago
I'm 50/50 on that though. If your 16yr old kid drives drunk, should parents be jailed as well? My brother was a shitty kid and broke into a neighbor's garage to steal beer. Cops caught him, he got in trouble. Our parents were real law and order type people, we both knew right from wrong, and I'm not sure it would have made sense to charge our parents with a crime as well.
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u/Toxic_Orange_DM 1d ago
I totally get your argument, and no, I don't think the parents should always be involved. The problem is that I appreciate that I shouldn't say that drink driving isn't serious (becuase it obviously is, the consequences can be deadly) but that this sort of behaviour feels more serious to me. My knee-jerk reaction in this case stems from how young the child is - this is a deeply disturbing thing for an 11 year old to be doing.
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u/RocCle7 1d ago
Driving drunk and planning and following through with mass murdering people with an AR15 is completely different. Especially when guns are in the home and the kid was investigated by the FBI a year before he shot up the school. Then yes, the parents should be liable. Not even comparable situations.
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u/Savings_Young428 1d ago
But this post is about kids threatening to shoot up a school, and I responded to someone who said the parents should be arrested for threats their kids make, not actions. Active shooter who was given a gun by the parents, yes, arrest. Threats of shooting, no, don't arrest parents.
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u/SewSewBlue 1d ago
It is more like buying your kid alcohol and letting them drive drunk, than a kid getting drunk at a house party and driving home.
Bars can be sued for knowingly letting someone drunk drive. Why should parents who buy firearms and ignore warnings be different?
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u/Existing_Gas_760 1d ago
He's making a poster with all the kids pics and what school they go to. Gonna mugshot the parents and post them as well.
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u/somnambulantcat 1d ago
I'm glad the authorities caught this kid, but people here seem ready to lynch this kid before he is allowed his due process. The sheriff has publicly tried, convicted, and passed his own sentence on this 11 year old kid already ... that is not his job.
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u/Cynykl 1d ago
This is a way to get sued. Notice how news stations bend over backwards to hide details of most minors. The kid has not had their day in court yet but the cop wants to try them in the public square. The first time the cop nabs the wrong kid the sheriff's office will be sued to oblivion.
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u/JAragon7 1d ago
Some years ago I was in a 2 hour lockdown at work because of what turned out to be a hoax.
They should 100% crackdown on this.
Itās terrifying not knowing whatās going on and having helicopters surrounding your campus, and having a full on swat team walking into your office. I thought I was never gonna see my family again
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u/illy-chan 1d ago
Chitwood really taking after the old man with seeking out headlines.
For those unfamiliar, this is not Sheriff Michael Chitwood's first time in the press and his father was a cop in and around Philadelphia who also really liked getting in front of the cameras.
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u/Zettomer 1d ago
Sheriff is an elected position. They HAVE to really like getting in front of the cameras and doing PR shit. It's how they keep their job.
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u/illy-chan 1d ago
His dad wasn't a sheriff - if I'm remembering my timeline correctly, he worked homicide in Philly and then became the top brass in Upper Darby (a Philly suburb). Even as a detective, he had a habit of being really into talking to the media.
In his defense, I've generally had the impression he did a pretty decent job but I've seen more than a few folks (including reporters) talk about how weirdly eager he was to be in front of cameras. Honestly, if liking attention was his biggest sin, that's hardly the worst thing a public official ever did.
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u/awesomesauce1030 1d ago
I was just about to say, I live in central Florida and he takes every chance he can to be on TV. I didn't know about his father though.
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u/culpshillstan 1d ago
He sure did! Ruled UD with an iron fist, but couldn't wait to talk about it in front of a camera.
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u/HenneZwo 1d ago
Attention seeker by family tradition.
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u/illy-chan 1d ago
Don't know that much about jr but I will at least admit that the old man was seemingly competent. Just maybe more into the spotlight than normal.
Felt like that DiCaprio pointing meme when I first started seeing jr in the news.
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u/JcbAzPx 1d ago
This could backfire as now you risk people doing hoaxes to get their 5 seconds of fame.
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u/Colecoman1982 1d ago
Also, we know that police NEVER make a mistake when arresting someone for a crime... /s
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u/Rambos_Magnum_Dong 1d ago
Good.
The parents obviously suck at raising their kid. Now, put them on blast too.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 1d ago
I'd be careful about that. Nuture only plays a partial role in how we turn out. Good parents can raise a shithead kid. Sooner or later the kid's responsible for their own actions.
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u/lebastss 1d ago
While I see what you're saying, it's always good to give positive affirmation to good decisions made by bad people. The attitude of this doesn't erase past discretions is absolutely true. Moving past that and specially rewarding people for the right move will lead to more of that
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u/sloppifloppi 1d ago
Whataboutism, so hot right now!
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u/mynamejeff-97 1d ago
I think this personās point is the students should be held to the same level of accountability as the officers. He approves of this as long as everyone is held accountable.
If a cop or a student threatens other people unjustly, they should be called out and punished.
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u/Reasonable-Friend764 1d ago
Yeah it sets a bad example for kids when adults with important jobs are coddled.Ā
The more it happens,Ā the more people will expect the same treatment for themselves.Ā They don't realize you need to be a member of the good ol boys club for special treatment.Ā
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u/Dependent_Inside83 1d ago
Hmmm, couldnāt be any reason at all why we generally keep child identities secret in criminal cases, then thereās maybe that whole innocent until proven guilty thing.
The sheriff and anyone supporting him are insane, all of you.
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u/HungryHAP 1d ago
Okay now how bout address fake news about REAL shooters.
Thereās people out there that think the mass school shooter from a couple weeks was a 14 year old Trans. In reality, he was a 14 year trans HATER. His name was Colt Gray, radicalized by the Alt Right.
Thatās much more dangerous than these failed pranks.
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u/RightToTheThighs 1d ago
I support this. In general I believe these kids should have their names out there. It is especially enraging when a teenager commits a heinous violent crime, and their names are still withheld. I believe the public has a right to know who is committing these crimes
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u/theghost440 1d ago
Address the easy access to firearms? Nah Address the mental health needs of society? Nah Humiliate an already unstable child? THAT'S THE ONE
I'm not offended or appalled by the sheriff's decision. It's not going to work though. These people are completely out of touch with today's youth. This might as well be the Scared Straight nonsense from the 90s. This kid needs counseling and family services, but I guess public humiliation is close enough š
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u/marmot1101 1d ago
Kid is 11. While it's cathartic to do stuff like this, the kid is 11. 15+, whatever old enough to know better. But at 11 getting charged with a felony is just gonna fuck the kid up permanently, and be one more fucked up adult to deal with for the following 70 years.
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u/Acceptable_Rice 1d ago
So, you're thinking that a "stern talking to" will make it all better? The kid needs a serious course correction.
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u/marmot1101 1d ago
Prosecute him in juvenile court where thereās some attempt at mixing in rehabilitation with punishment. And privacy. They want to parade him out of school as a deterrent, fine. Leave it there.
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u/mdhunter99 1d ago
Never thought Iād praise a cop. Good move.
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u/hray12 1d ago
Chitwood definitely has his ups and downs, but this always comes to mind when I hear his name lol
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u/UllrHellfire 1d ago
It's wild how "children" are treated in the USA like these above deities who can do no wrong, kids get unhinged or kill people in the states and we act like it's everyone else's fault, I understand the protection and defense of children but I also understand that like adults children can be as evil and providing a platform of security allows kids to get away with far more then they should. Probably a bat take but after being shot at by kids idk maybe I'm biased now but we need to protect children by all cost but we need to really understand that accountability needs to be taken also for their bad actions.
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u/JohnDough3544 1d ago
Is this the same Mike Chitwood who was the police chief in Portland, ME 20 years ago? Frankly, I like this move.
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u/knottedthreads 1d ago
They keep telling us that school shooters want the notoriety and attention. I know this kid just made a threat but isnāt this just giving him attention?
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u/Mitrovarr 1d ago
While the intentions are good, I'm not sure it will be effective.Ā
This gives the offender attention, while they may actually want. Meanwhile, the consequences mostly boil down to destroying their employment prospects which they won't even feel for years.
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u/kickinit90s 1d ago
What is it that makes it a hoax? Is it when the threat is not found to be credible or just that it wasnāt carried out?
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u/Domguyps5 1d ago
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This will set a dangerous precedent
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u/_HystErica_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
I knew that name rang a bell
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u/Veeksvoodoo 1d ago
Based on his Wiki, he sounds like the kind of cop we need more of.
-Police reform, including education for officers around bias training and reducing use of force.
-Denounced the Jan. 06 event at the capital.
-Vocal against Anti-Jewish group
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u/usefully_useless 1d ago
The NYPD cop whose disciplinary record you linked has nothing to do with this story.
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u/_HystErica_ 1d ago
Yeah sorry, I had posted the wrong link. It's fixed now š
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u/usefully_useless 1d ago
lol. Itās all good. I thought you were accidentally replying to the wrong post.
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u/TripleSecretSquirrel 1d ago
What a fascinating political entity this guy is.
I donāt know how effective or sincere he is, but based on his not backing down in the face of apparent consequences, Iām guessing the dude is sincere.
His priorities as sheriff were to reduce the use of force and bias amongst his deputies, heās expressed support for Black Lives Matter, got a lot of heat for opposing blatantly anti-Semitic groups, and was also a two-time Trump voter. Heās since disavowed Trump, throwing his support behindā¦ Ron DeSantis. The cognitive dissonance that must exist in that guyās mind sounds exhausting.
Edit: lol this is my favorite part, heās been endorsed by both the NAACP and the NRA.
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u/Previous_Soil_5144 1d ago
Let's keep blaming the kids and accept absolutely no responsibility for their failures. Let's not even blame the parents because that would also admit that authority can make mistakes.
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u/Redlax 1d ago
So many deleted posts, it's like a graveyard of people that still don't know how to behave!
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u/bananafobe 1d ago
Ironic, given how horny everyone here seems to be for public humiliation as a deterrent.Ā
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u/siouxbee1434 1d ago
Parents are legally responsible for their children until age 18. The parents SHOILD be held as responsible as possible. Older teens (15+) should be held more accountable than younger. If a child is charged with a felony, the parents should also face at least that level of responsibility
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u/crazybehind 1d ago
I agree, but only if it can be shown that the parents knew or should have known about their child's illegal behavior.Ā
It's trivially easy for a kid to make a phoney bomb threat, for example. Three idiot 15yo kids hang out unsupervised for an hour and someone pressures someone to crank call the school.Ā
I can't imagine imposing criminal liability on a parent unless they either knew or should have known this was going on.Ā
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This guy's a fucking idiot. Yeah, posting an 11 year olds picture online for him to be ostracized will certainly help with any mental health issues he might be having. How do these idiots get elected to begin with?
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u/TheGooch01 1d ago
Iām not sure itās a good idea to humiliate a kid, presumably with a fetish with guns/violence. Itās not the āsheriffāsā job to decide if public shame is the appropriate punishment, thatās left to a neutral arbitrator trained to make such decisions. Sheriffs are not judges.
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u/Cosmicdusterian 1d ago
This was what some parents with problem children used to do in my old neighborhood decades ago. Get the local cops to basically put the fear of consequences into them. It was almost like a service the police provided to parents who needed an assist.
It worked. Not that they all went on to be perfect upstanding citizens, but most didn't continue on the road to really stupid and dangerous behavior, either.
First hand experience: My brother was a problem child after my parent's divorce. They tried counseling for him but nothing worked. He and a couple of friends stole a car stereo from a neighbor and got caught. The neighbor didn't want to press charges (they're kids) but my dad was like, "Fuck this, you want to be a criminal, you're going to experience the consequences of being a criminal. So he called the local police and explained the situation.
Lights, sirens. Perp walk in front of the neighbors. Whole nine yards. Except it wasn't on his permanent record. One afternoon stint alone in the local lockup at the age of 14 cured him of a lot of the behaviors (stealing, setting small fires, and generally being a major dickhead).
He was still a bit of a dickhead, but he never saw the inside of a prison cell again. And he was definitely headed that way. They sent him to counseling again. He stopped hanging with his buddies and he went on to live the life of a (mostly) law-abiding citizen (weed was still illegal). The friends parents were informed but not sure what they did with their little criminals.
He died a some time ago, but I imagine he never forgot that day his dad sent him to "prison". He could laugh about it years later, so there wasn't any permanent damage done. It did scare the shit out of him because he thought for sure he was going to be there for years. And he'd never been happier to see his dad then when dad came to "bail" him out.
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u/Sorn37 1d ago
I'm in favor of the sheriff's program. I presume he also has a Facebook page with the mugshots of all the officers of his county who happen to be arrested. Oh, he'd harass me for that? Then he can fuck right off with this PR stunt.
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u/ConscientiousObserv 1d ago
Saw a great story about a sheriff who was touting his "Wall of Shame" program where he posted mugshots of arrestees.
The sheriff stood firm, despite pleas from friends and family.
That is, until his daughter got arrested for drug possession, then he suddenly agreed with them and shut the program down. š
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u/Colecoman1982 1d ago
Alternately, I can just imaging the way this pig would squeal if his 11 year old child or grandchild was the one who got caught making such a bomb/shooting threat (assuming he wasn't able to intercept the arrest before it happened and use his power as sheriff to make it "go away")... Clowns like this, that like to advocate making policing into some kind of perverse performance art (usually for political points and/or to boost their own fragile egos), are often the ones most likely to feel that the same laws shouldn't apply to themselves and their own, in my experience.
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u/MooKids 1d ago
As long as they go after anyone that makes false accusations as well.
"I don't like Timmy, let's say he made a threat and get him in trouble!"
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u/Jessperado 1d ago
They paraded this kid around because he actually had access to weapons to carry out his threat. Many of the other threats were pranks by kids with no arsenal. They arrested a kid for making a threat on my child's school last week but didn't give a name and made sure the community knew that the kid in that case had no guns or means whatsoever to carry out an attack.
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u/splycedaddy 1d ago
Start a tik tok page of pranksters getting arrested. There is an over glorification of pranking that it is harmless.. but sometimes its anything but. A tik tok to show consequences might have an effect