r/interesting • u/_Paak • 2d ago
The first photo taken of the Titan submersible on the ocean floor, after the implosion. SCIENCE & TECH
First image taken by the Pelagic Research Service Team
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u/ProfessionalAd6216 2d ago
I thought it was fully destroyed
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u/LooseProfessional355 2d ago
Only carbon shell part
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u/da_river_to_da_sea 1d ago
Who the fuck ever thought that carbon fiber was a good idea for this?
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u/DweeblesX 1d ago
One of the guys crushed under the ocean right now
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u/da_river_to_da_sea 1d ago
As someone who had a carbon fiber mountain bike for a while, I could have told him it wasn't going to work out.
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u/JayR_97 1d ago
Loads of people did tell him. He ignored them. His own hubris got him and 4 other people killed
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u/Regular-Apartment124 1d ago
Expensive way to die
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u/turbodmurf 1d ago
No. The carbon fiber was on discount. The got it from Boeing because it was past it's shelf life.
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u/Sonkalino 1d ago
B-but they had microphones embeded in the hull that would warn them when the carbon fibre was about to give up! It's so nice getting a flash of warning before suddenly turning into fish chow.
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u/zymuralchemist 1d ago
As I understand it, the pressure was so sudden and immense that their body tissues would have combusted due to the diesel effect.
Biology became physics. Horrific.
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u/IanKilmister 1d ago
No. You have to consider the water also.
Surely, air was compressed due to immense pressure but as the sub was being compressed, water was also rushing to fill that space. There was not enough time to combust anything. Everything happened in a fraction of a second, temperature inside rose to 1000 degrees and water canceled that.
Everything became fine mist..
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u/zymuralchemist 1d ago
I don’t mean a fire, I mean a flash at maybe ten or twenty milliseconds. It was a white hot bubble, then just a cavity. By the time there was space for the water to fill, the passenger pod was just gone.
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u/ConstableAssButt 1d ago
Loads of people did tell him. He ignored them.
The crazy part about it, is he knew. He knew that carbon fiber would begin to build up stress over time and would eventually catastrophically fail. I don't understand why he had the hubris to keep subjecting the material to stresses that he knew it could not recover from, and that he developed no novel process for testing hull integrity in the carbon fiber shell after dives.
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u/Beneficial-Net-5578 1d ago
You think this was an overelaborate suicide plan, but also getting 4 other people killed to make it look like an accident?
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u/ConstableAssButt 1d ago
Doubt. I just think this was a guy for whom everything in his entire life had worked out for, because he had a ton of money. I kind of wonder if he just genuinely believed he was special, and that it wouldn't happen to him. He had all the information to know what would happen. He did it anyway. I can't chalk that up to just absolute certainty that it would work.
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u/Lavidius 1d ago
I read somewhere that Virgin had experiments with carbon fibre hulls for submersibles and deduced that they were effectively only good for one trip, as they accumulated micro tears.
Essentially the information was already out there for these guys to find
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u/Beldizar 1d ago
Carbon fiber is great for pressure vessels, and is used in rockets all the time. The problem is that it is really good at keeping high pressure on the inside from getting out, and really bad at keeping low pressure on the inside and keeping exterior high pressure out. Also it is really bad about getting microscopic cracks that are difficult to detect and impossible to repair.
The people that designed the sub were pretty confident that it would work once. After going that deep and coming back up just one time, it would be too damaged to safely do it again. Then some idiot with more money than brains decided if it worked once, there can't possibly be a problem for it to work again and again.
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u/TheRealHuthman 1d ago
This. Carbon fiber is good in withstanding tensile and bad in withstanding compression forces.
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u/cficare 1d ago
Dude literally bragged about getting a deal on the carbon fiber from an aerospace firm or some shit. Can't make this stuff up.
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u/da_river_to_da_sea 1d ago
The more I hear of this guy and the more convinced I am that he should be the face of r/whatcouldgowrong.
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u/tittiesdotcom 1d ago
Carbon fiber works it just get weaker with each dive. They did multiple dives with this vessel beforehand with no issues but never did the proper maintenance to keep it 100. Most others are made from titanium and don’t experience the fall off in strength. His idea was “saving weight” and making the most affordable submersible he could(hence the damn game controller) while maintaining “performance”
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u/da_river_to_da_sea 1d ago
I mean, working until it implies and kills everyone is it isn't really the definition of "working" that I'd feel comfortable with.
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u/Snoo_8406 1d ago
Imagine being a billionaire and not researching this fact with a team of experts before you and your son sign up. Fat probability tails
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u/Lonely_Biscotti1874 1d ago
I also thought huge debris were all retrieved.
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u/anona_moose 1d ago
It's possible that it was recovered, there's a hearing about the incident this week and new images and accounts are being made public.
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u/WeirdestOfWeirdos 1d ago
If the toothpaste were suddenly crushed by a comically large falling weight, yes lmao
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u/Terrible-Cause-9901 2d ago
Built by a guy who said he didn’t need to listen to experts.
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u/_Paak 2d ago
In the sub world the rules are written in blood, I don’t understand how that guy did not listen to
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u/killaluggi 1d ago
Not only in the sub world buddy, if you ever wonderd about why osha is so annoying with all thier rules just remember that someone most likely died a horrible, horrible death that lead to that rule in the first place.....
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u/poonhunger 1d ago
Don’t google degloved
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u/Senseo256 1d ago
Is that like sounding?
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u/Pretty_Show_5112 1d ago
Orders of magnitude worse.
If degloving is the NFL, sounding is peewee tee-ball
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u/theresabeeonyourhat 1d ago
So fucking glad that the Supreme Court undercut their strength, and Thomas' dumbass wants rid of it
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u/TheDeadWhale 1d ago
This is even true at places like public swimming pools. When swimmers ask me why we have seemingly redundant rules, especially regarding child safety, I tell them that something really bad probably happened and we don't want it to happen again. Why should I keep my young children at arms reach? Well because we'd rather not add numbers to certain statistics.
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u/Terrible-Cause-9901 1d ago
Ya I just googled to double check myself and he was warned, a lot! This guy Rush even threatened to sue the person(s) warning him
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u/nada_accomplished 1d ago
Rush got what he deserved. It's a shame he took other people with him. Especially that poor kid.
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u/Snaccbacc 1d ago
When money matters more than sense.
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u/Terrible-Cause-9901 1d ago
He was even gonna hire lawyers to gag his detractors. Prolly another victim of generational wealth
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u/junktom 1d ago
Now there's TWO sites to visit!
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u/AlxIp 1d ago
If you look to the left, you'll see the site where billionaires died a hundred years ago. And if you look to the right, you will see the site where billionaires died a couple years ago.
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u/TheNicestPig 1d ago
You do realize in 1912 Oceanliners were the only wide-spread way to get across the ocean reliably. If you wanted to cross the Atlantic, you get on an Oceanliner, rich or not.
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u/used_tongs 1d ago
You do realize the titanic was also a product of hubris. It was called the unsinkable ship for a reason
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u/zymuralchemist 1d ago
In 1912 the Titanic claimed one thousand, five hundred and seventeen souls. And in 2023 five more.
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u/ParamedicUpset6076 2d ago
Should have been called Icarus
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u/DiddlyDumb 1d ago
Reverse Icarus, or Ricarus
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u/Alonn12 1d ago
Suraci *
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u/PM_ur_SWIMSUIT 1d ago
Pretty sure that's some third tier Star Wars character.
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u/emzeemc 1d ago
Where was the xbox controller?
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u/BenevenstancianosHat 2d ago
I'd be okay with never ever again in my entire lifetime hearing anything about the Titanic or anything even ancillary to it.
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u/subwayprophet41 1d ago
You will probably get your wish in ten years or so because it's being broken down and will be nothing but a big rust spot on the ocean floor right now you can see what looks like rust colored icesickles called rusticles all over the ship if anything touches it just disintegrates and its taking over the ship slowly but surely. That's a hell of a thing to imagine that one day there will literally be nothing left of the ship of dreams the unsinkable Titanic.
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u/Wabbajack001 1d ago
Plenty of things were brought back. Like a full hull part so there will never be literally nothing left.
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u/BenevenstancianosHat 1d ago
That's a hell of a thing to imagine that one day there will literally be nothing left of the ship of dreams the unsinkable Titanic.
This. Shit like this is why. This could be a line from that Rick and Morty episode, lol.
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u/axelwirth 2d ago
Why?
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u/Ok-Parfait8675 1d ago
Yeah I'm with you. I've always found the history of Titanic to be interesting, and I've also always been attracted to abandoned places.
I will tell you though, I got really tired of everyone gloating over the deaths of those aboard the sub. Everyone on this site is always falling all over themselves to prove how compassionate they are. This story showed peoples' true colors, not matter what kind of justifications they may have come up with for it.
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u/vctrmldrw 1d ago
Step one would be to stop engaging with social media posts on the subject. You are literally telling the algo to feed you more.
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u/iamatoad_ama 1d ago
I know the chances of survival were extremely slim. But if I were one of the crew, I would have anticipated the breach by listening to the cracks in the hull and then, just as the submarine walls split open, I would have squeezed myself out through the crack and swam up towards safety.
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u/TheToecutter 1d ago
That's exactly what they all did, except for the "swim up towards safety" part.
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u/Nateomancer 1d ago
I like that people are actually responding with why this wouldn't work like no shit lol
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u/AlfalfaClean3607 1d ago
I can’t believe all these people disagreeing with you, it’s painfully obvious that you would succeed in swimming out of that. Everyone else is just being a total pussy about it. It’s only water!
I would have secretly taken another submarine down with me made out of kelp or something.
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u/BigBoyoBonito 1d ago
Nah, you just have to time your dodge roll and avoid the implosion during your i-frames. Easy shit fr
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u/AdOk5627 1d ago
Survivor bias: dude got away with risks often enough it made him think the experts were talking crap and he knew what he was doing. Some adverse events are rare enough to mean we can all fall victim to our luck.
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u/Mirieste 1d ago
Isn't that all of us? Walking outside next to cars every single day, until one day we're hit by a stray car suddenly realizing that those machines speeding by next to the sidewalk were, in fact, deadly all along.
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u/AdOk5627 1d ago
Yep, it’s all of us until our luck runs out. Just need to make sure your luck running out 3km under the Atlantic is a thing. There’s a level of risk where even a bighead needs to pass it over to experts.
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u/Chiranj42 1d ago
Will the bones of the people get crushed at that pressure? Is there nothing that remains of the victims?
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u/Prussian_Destroyer 1d ago
I thought that shit was supposed to have been crumpled like a tin can under a planet yet my guy looks intact-ish
Did they die instantly or did they have enough time to realize they were dead?
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u/Pretty_Show_5112 1d ago
This is a fairing that wasn't part of the pressure vessel. The carbon fiber pressure compartment imploded.
They were dead before any of their nerves could send an electrical impulse to the brain.
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u/Adept-Platypus-5160 1d ago
Doesn't look imploded.
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u/rainbowdashhole 1d ago
Stockton wanted to be remembered as an innovator, but his legacy will be that of a disrespectful idiot who killed himself and 4 other people to turn a tragedy into a tourist attraction.
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u/MiserableLoss2456 1d ago
Looks like an Atlas manipulator out of frame on the port side or the ROV, true OP? What company is this?
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u/TypicalBloke83 1d ago
So it did make the dive to the Titanic… also it shows that most of the implosion vids were not exactly correct.
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u/Chiranj42 1d ago
For how much time would they have been alive after the implosion? It seems terrifying
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u/Ben-D-Beast 1d ago
A fraction of a second. Not even long enough for their brains to realise what happened.
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u/BlownUpCapacitor 2d ago
I thought it was something from Portal first.