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u/Present-Party4402 1d ago
Whole civilizations were built on the spice trade, so they’re definitely more than just a way to cover up bad food!
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u/RobNybody 1d ago
I recently heard that during their height, a third of the Roman Empire's wealth came from the spice trade in India. Crazy.
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u/Damien23123 1d ago
Must have been trading with people in India since their conquests never got anywhere near it
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u/LudwigBeefoven 1d ago
Both overland routes through the Persians and also trade came overseas via the Indian ocean, up the red sea, and into the Mediterranean through the canal of the pharaohs.
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u/whatiswhonow 1d ago
Came from or was spent on? The Byzantines taxed trade quite effectively, but the OG Romans from Rome shipped away their wealth to India through an Egypt—>Red Sea—>Gulf of Aden—>Arabian Sea—>Indian west coast route, I thought. At that time, I thought even the Silk Road ended in India and it was dominated by sea trade from there.
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u/Papusinho 1d ago
Source?
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u/RobNybody 1d ago
Unfortunately I don't remember the episode, but it's from the podcast Empire which I really recommend. https://open.spotify.com/show/0sBh58hSTReUQiK4axYUVx?si=FoKLzjp0QhSmf1PuJpV_3g
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u/lordmagellan 1d ago
Pretty sure it was just few episodes back, as it was during the current series on William's new book.
And hello, fellow listener.
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u/RobNybody 1d ago
No I'm still on the Ottomans, so it was definitely in the first Indian bit. Hello :) great series.
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u/lordmagellan 1d ago
Really? Maybe they mention it again. Or maybe I listen to way too many podcasts and they're bleeding together.
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u/whatiswhonow 1d ago
Came from or was spent on? The Byzantines taxed trade quite effectively, but the OG Romans from Rome shipped away their wealth to India through an Egypt—>Red Sea—>Gulf of Aden—>Arabian Sea—>Indian west coast route, I thought. At that time, I thought even the Silk Road ended in India and it was dominated by sea trade from there.
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u/RobNybody 1d ago
They said at the height, which was before the Byzantine era, but they just mentioned it and I'm no expert.
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u/GiuliaAquaTofanaToo 1d ago
I call my French Toast -war toast because all the spices I use caused wars.
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u/DotAccomplished5484 1d ago
Dr. Sydney Watson only has a masters degree and is an immigrant to the US (Texas, of course) from Australia. If she lies about her degree, she may be an illegal immigrant...
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u/soualexandrerocha 1d ago
Reminds me of a famous episode of "The West Wing":
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u/DotAccomplished5484 1d ago
I loved that episode when Jed Bartlet tore into that pseudo-expert. What a great tirade!
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u/doublestuf27 1d ago
Hey now, Texas is on your side in this one. We love us some dirt spices for our Tex-Mex and BBQ.
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u/mrkikkeli 1d ago
Don't get me wrong, i love spice blends from zaatar to curry and everything in between until my mouth will melt, but most rubs I've experienced in texan restaurants were so overpowering that you could barely tell what it was seasoning. Beef? Rat? And old chewing gum? It all tasted the same, ie like rub.
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u/monnii99 1d ago
It says that she started her career path during her masters degree. Not that she never studied after that tho.
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u/prawalnono 1d ago
People who are real doctors don’t put down where they started but where they ended…
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u/monnii99 1d ago
People who are real doctors have doctorates. That's the only qualifying factor. Her mentioning her masters degree as a pivotal moment in her career doesn't mean she doesn't have a doctorate. So unless it's proven she doesn't have it, it's just baseless speculation.
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u/prawalnono 1d ago
So she’s more proud of her master’s than her supposed “doctorate”, I guess.
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u/monnii99 1d ago
Not necessarily. She just says that during her master she came to a realisation. And based on that people are extrapolating that she is aN illegal immigrant lying about a doctorate.
You could also say that her putting "Dr." In her twitter username means she's proud of it. But again, no matter how proud she is or isn't, it doesn't matter for her title.
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u/Abaddon113 1d ago
Supposedly it’s a “joke” honorary doctorate from an uncredited uni. https://x.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1610362336061128705
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u/Turd_Ferguson_Lives_ 1d ago
Does she consider black pepper a "dirt spice"? Because that's most definitely from india, and it's a staple in even the most bland and unseasoned dishes.
Spices from india must have been like heaven on earth the first time europeans tasted them.
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u/ten-million 1d ago
Why else would you travel half way around the world back then? Better tasting food is a great thing! The Dutch traded Manhattan for the island where they grew nutmeg.
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u/WhiskeyFF 1d ago
Well the Portuguese brought chilis to India so there's that, same w tomatoes to Italy.
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u/Life-Excitement4928 1d ago
What do you think the British tried spices on first?
Potatoes and eggs, eggs with potatoes, potatoes with a garnish of egg, or eggs over potatoes?
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u/NoTeaching5089 1d ago
Potatoes are not native to Europe so they never even had them until they discovered America.
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u/luciacooks 1d ago
Lol probably not potatoes those are not native to India l. It was the British that brought them.
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u/TylerBourbon 1d ago
...... well yeah, spices improves the taste of food, that's how it works.
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u/codyd91 1d ago
I'd dare say, most food has a poor taste until seasoned and spiced. Exceptions to fruit and some veggies.
I bet this woman's potato salad is bland as hell. I didn't learn about the wonders of proper seasoning until I started cookimg for myself. Turns, chili can range from "mm that's good" to actual orgasms each bite. Why not aim for the latter?
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u/BTD6BTD6BTD6 1d ago
not rlly that clever but that woman hates spices therefor i hate her. nobody disses my pookiebear's Salt n Pepper
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u/NoTeaching5089 1d ago
Does she not know that literally every plant on earth grows out of dirt?
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u/Hoggorm88 1d ago
What exactly are "dirt spices"?
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u/feelthephrygian 1d ago
I bet she misunderstood "ground spices". Or then this is a level of racism Im not familiar with.
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u/laddervictim 1d ago
People that think flour is a seasoning also think the wind is spicy
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u/BomBiddyByeBye 1d ago
This is not a clever comeback. For the love of god, season your bland ass food, people. 🤣
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u/attaboy_stampy 1d ago
Fucking twitter, which one of these is supposed to be the comeback, because they both sound lame.
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u/zamander 1d ago
Well, I thought that I was a very enlightened person, but a chili cook-off stand had a spice called Oregano. And I was like what the hell...
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u/Different_Tangelo511 1d ago
Who's the burn on exactly, europeans or ind8an cuisine? I don't t get it.
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u/unbanneduser 1d ago
Don’t forget to ban Europe from the Indian spice trade! “What? That’s bullshit!” Said Portugal, spineless. Well I guess we’ll have to find another way to India…
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Question 2: steal the spice trade. That’s not a question, but the Dutch did it anyway
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u/Ksorkrax 1d ago
The great houses of the Landsraad used to wipe each other out just for the rights to mine Spice.
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u/AtomicBlastCandy 1d ago
Where does she think potatoes and carrots and many other things come from?
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u/Synner1985 1d ago
Us brits invaded most the world for spices we never use :p
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u/michelobX10 1d ago
It was never about about the spices, it was for the friends you made along the way. Jk
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u/ee_72020 1d ago
If your food requires you to put tons of butter, cheese, heavy cream and mayonnaise all over it in order for it to be palatable, your food is not good.
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u/Visual_Tangerine_210 1d ago
If that Dr title is legit, it’s crummy how someone of that high esteem fails to recognize her profound elitism.
Spices are used to enliven aging food, but along the way towards an advanced medical degree one should learn how not to sound like a privileged cunt.
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u/Ariliescbk 1d ago
Sydney Watson? Has she always been a doctor? I think I remember a point she was just a clueless rwnj.
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u/SonOfJokeExplainer 1d ago
People like this exist but let Tim Walz make a joke about tacos and somehow he’s the racist
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u/AnarchoBratzdoll 1d ago
Tbf the food people like that Sidney person make rarely is palatable.
I once dated a guy whose dad had opinions like that. He was also the one in charge of cooking for family events. I still have nightmares about that mans cooking and it's been a decade since I had to be around it.
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u/WinOld1835 1d ago
Lord, I'm going to need the hot sauce watch from Undercover Brother if I ever have to eat her food.
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u/BloomingtonBourbon 1d ago
Is she telling the entire state of Texas that their barbecue is not good
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u/AppropriateScience71 1d ago
How did her stupid, borderline racist (or incredibly ignorant) comment get so many upvotes?
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u/Apoordm 1d ago
Dr. Watson sounds like someone whose food I wouldn’t want to eat.
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u/HumbleSheep33 1d ago
Agreed. I used to like her content back in the 2010s but this frankly sounds racially-tinged/racist.
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u/chop1125 1d ago
White guy here, why the fuck do we give people like this a platform? All she is doing is convincing people that white people can't cook.
I will agree that if I have an amazing cut of steak, all it needs is a little butter, fresh garlic (no jarlic), and salt and pepper, but not every piece of meat is a perfectly marbled USDA Prime Bone-in Cowboy Ribeye. Most meats need spices to taste good.
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u/Peaurxnanski 1d ago
If you like your food bland, then good for you. Why do you feel like it's necessary to get online to denigrate anyone that doesn't? What is happening inside your head where you feel like it's necessary to talk down to, and degrade people online for liking their food different from you?
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u/HasheemThaMeat 1d ago
Does she realize that the national dish of the UK is … Chicken Tikka Masala.
The country that kicked her ancestors (probably criminals) out and shipped them to Australia, disagrees with her lol
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u/mrkikkeli 1d ago edited 1d ago
Funny, most dry rubs I've seen used in Texas are so overpowering that you can barely tell whether you're eating beef or rat meat
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u/Maleficent_Scene_693 1d ago
Spices were used to dye fabrics aswell, turmeric has been used for a very long time to make clothes yellow. Wasnt just for food.
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u/Niptaa 1d ago
Ew, you use spices from plants that grows in dirt? The only spice she can handle comes from the ocean and it’s called salt
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u/TheRealNekora 1d ago
Please, lets not get things wrong here.
you add a single salt crystal to her food she gonna send it back becuse its to spicy
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u/Kelevra_55 1d ago
It seems as if 'Dr Watson's' food lacks any sort of seasoning. Probably covers everything in ketchup, too
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u/Busy_Brain_6944 1d ago
I don’t understand who that insults? The Europeans who wanted the spices… or the people in India making food with good spices… seems like both were pretty agreed that no spice food was terrible.
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u/MydniteSon 1d ago
And you realize that the purpose behind the spice trade was predominately medicinal, right?
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u/brningpyre 1d ago
If you put Dr. before your name in your bio, I automatically think less of you. Especially if it's just a doctorate title, and not a real doctor.
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
All those conquered nations for their spices and then they didn't even use them...
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u/375InStroke 1d ago
Living up to the stereotype of white people don't season. She probably thinks mayo is too spicy.
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u/SpaceCourier 1d ago
She types as she eats food she door dashed because she can’t cook. As if anything we eat in America is good enough to act like we don’t need spices no matter the cook 😂 it’s literally what makes the dish sometimes.
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u/Klutzy-Performance97 1d ago
Dr. Disappointment has her food unseasoned, and void of description, like her personality.
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u/HumanJoystick 1d ago
An American criticizing a foreign cuisine? Because their fucking McDonalds has no fucking taste whatsoever bar the salt it's doused in or because their hotdogs are full of god-knows-what-shit? How stupid are these people?
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u/CompetitivePirate251 1d ago
Dr. Sydney… cough, cough, did you clean the dirt off all the pepper on my whopper?
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u/Feeling_Diamond_2875 23h ago
We fought for the rights to sell that shit tho? Not to salt our food lmao
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u/essaysmith 1d ago
And then they (looking at you England) didn't use ANY of those spices on their own food.
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u/ChaosKinZ 1d ago
People just can't cook. Either it's bland or you can only taste the spices. Learn proportions people
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u/HasheemThaMeat 1d ago edited 1d ago
The ancestors of modern day Indians made key discoveries in mathematics, astronomy, and invented the earliest form of the “bank check” system, while her people were scratching their heads at why shitting in the streets was making them sick / die, and why sleeping with your first cousin produced sick children.
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u/On_Targ3t 1d ago
Yes and a few thousand years later a trading company from her ancestors land conquered all of India. And nowadays its Pakistanis who have the highest inbreeding rates in the world and Indians who are famous for taking a dump on the streets.
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u/Total-Commercial-438 1d ago
Course it's the terminally ill Weaboo spouting crap like this, go touch yourself to your loli collection you twat
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u/SignReasonable7580 1d ago
Half of India's spice rack was introduced to them by Europeans.
Just for one, chilis were native to the Americas until the Portuguese supplied the rest of the world.
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u/Life-Excitement4928 1d ago
And the other half they already had. And used!
What spices came from Europeans directly?
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u/Fabulousonion 1d ago
Europeans introduced spice to India? Lmao right
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u/Ok_Leading999 1d ago
English and Indian cuisine were very similar in the 17th century.
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u/Viva_la_Ferenginar 1d ago edited 1d ago
Considering England is a cold northern country and India is a hot country nearer the equator, it would be a marvel if they had the same cuisine as different plants grow in different climates.
Also spices were cheaper and more readily available in India since the bronze age
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u/KathrynBooks 1d ago
Chilis came to India from the Americas via European traders
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u/rmike7842 1d ago
Does she know you can remove the dirt before processing the spice?